One Mind, Any weapon

A person who is said to be proficient at the arts is like a fool.
Because of his foolishness in concerning himself with just one thing,
he thinks of nothing else and thus becomes proficient.
He is a worthless person. – Tsunetomo Yamamoto

I’ve received a few questions & comments about not carrying a knife on my PFD. That’s great. I sort of baited everyone by putting that non-descript little sentence there and not going into detail. So let me explain. . .

I’ve always carried the big (insert Aussie accent here) KNIFE, (as in, “You call that a knife?!”) on the front of my pfd. I can remember the first day of my ACA instructor training seeing the IT (instructor trainer) with his big honkin’ knife and thinking, I gotta get me one of those. I read all the various articles talking about entanglement issues and such and that just confirmed my decision. Besides everyone else is having fun with knives! I wanted to look like a bad-a** too!

What to get? Well my logic was simple. First I asked myself what conditions would I get tangled up in? Well odds would say it won’t be on a calm lake on a warm sunny day. It would probably be in the rough stuff. After all, I like the rough stuff! Ok, so a folding knife is right out. How would I get a folding knife out of a pocket & unfolded while being thrashed upside down and sideways in the surf? I’d just wash up on shore wrapped around my boat with a closed folding knife still clutched in my cold dead hands. (sorry, Chuck) So I needed a knife I could just pull right out and use. The simple choice was one of those long dagger-like blades that slips into a sheath right on the front of your PFD. My choice was the Gerber Clip Lock Rivermaster Knife. Now, that’s a knife. The great part about it is it’s spring loaded locking mechanism. It stays put in it’s sheath and it’s double sided blade means I wouldn’t die in a panic trying to cut a rope with the wrong side of the knife as would be my fate. Mary choose the Gerber River Shorty Knife. She wanted something smaller than the Rivermaster and with a blunt tip. So after a little fiddling we were part of the Knife crowd. We could now walk around proudly displaying our weapons in public. Something us Americans take very seriously! However like most fantasy’s come to life, hints of reality started to seep in.

The first issue we found was that Mary began getting hung up when she tried to launch up on her boat for a self rescue, or as she would slide back off the deck. The plastic sheath would catch under the lines and bungies. I didn’t have that problem because I get a lot of air when I launch up over the deck, but she slides onto the deck and was very susceptible to getting caught on a line. To add to the issue, once you’re caught your caught. The sheath will not come out of the attachment point with any amount of force. Next we started to both occasionally get the beasts hung up when doing scrambles. Suddenly the knives were the first actual entanglement issues we had experienced. Getting the knife/sheath caught could be tough issue to deal with if your adrenaline was up. You have to take the time to work the rope out from under the sheath to get free. And it can get pretty wedged up in there at times. Yikes.

In addition to entanglement problems Mary’s knife was emerging as even more of a hazard. I say “Emerging” in that it kept “emerging” from the sheath. Suddenly you have a dagger flinging around on a bit of line like a mad giant bumble bee while you’re in some awkward position on your deck. It didn’t take long before we knew that that River Shorty was just not going to be a safe knife. Frankly the design of the sheath and clip is not up to any kind of real stress. Over time the plastic clips wear and become more flexible. Soon the knife is falling out quite regularly. We replaced the first one thinking it was defective. But the second was the same right out of the box. This is the last thing you need with a dagger that you plan to mount on your chest. So that knife amounted to a small financial donation to Gerber, hopefully to R & D.

What’s more is the danger of slitting your own throat or stabbing yourself with the blade while trying to use it. Remember you shouldn’t run with a knife. Let alone spin upside down, shoved in all directions, banged into rocks, etc.

But entanglement is a real issue right? Certainly. You have to make your own choices and weigh the risks. I’m certainly no expert. There are a plethora of options out there from folding blades to round blades, little saws, scissors and more. You have to try them in the world you use them in. Theory never really seems to tell the whole story. At the BCU skills symposium it was brought up to us that at least antidotally the knife on the PFD is causing more issues than resolving. Our personal experience is just that. So I was more than happy with the concept of getting that knife off my chest. But, what’s my solution?

Well, that’s a good question and I’m not sure I’ve settled on an answer yet. A few folks at the symposium were showing me how they use surgical scissors that were placed in a pocket on the side of the PFD. Very easy to get at, and will cut through just about anything. I’ve got a pair and am leaning toward that solution. But I’m always looking for input from people much wiser than me.

On the other hand I’ve been feeling a bit moody lately, a little less self assured, less confident. I wonder if I’m feeling a little less manly without my shiny weapon proudly on display? Will I be a little less aggressive in my boat? Maybe I won’t edge with confidence. Maybe braces will become weak and ineffectual. Maybe I’ll buy a bright blue rec boat. . .

hmmmmm, I wonder. . .

-d

Oh, Wenley, this is for you. http://www.qajaqusa.org/temp/486860959oLDAyg_ph.jpg It’s Freya! I can’t believe this shot has not shown up on your blog yet!

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8 Responses to One Mind, Any weapon

  • alex says:

    First of all, in regards to the Gerber River Shorty, that knife is notorious for having a terrible sheath. Many boaters who use that knife buy a seperate custom made sheath which will securely hold the knife in place.

    Although I can definitely see the drawbacks of the knife for snagging things during cowboy scrambles, etc., what is the official BCU stance on the knife? Are they smart enough to have different standards for different situations? BCU Inland (whitewater) should theoretically strongly recommend a fixed blade securely attached to the PFD which is easily accessable since sea kayak style rescues are not part of the equation in whitewater boats. However, I could see that BCU Coastal might recomend a folder or something descretely tucked away as to not be an entaglement hazard.

    Although surgical scissors are a great option for many reasons (price, cutting strength, safety, etc.), depending on how they are mounted, I see scissors having the same (if not more) amount of entanglement risk as a knife sheath.

  • derrick says:

    Thanks for that Alex, I was hoping you’d expand more on the subject.

    Not sure what the “Official Line” is. But the BCU does have seperate divisions, Ocean, Whitewater, Surf, etc., so I’m sure the recommendations are specific to each as you suggest. In addition each coach will often have their own preference that may not be a “BCU” or “ACA” thing, just their opinion.

    The sissors or even a folding knife can be put in a pocket off the chest which will solve many of the issues we personally were having. From there it’s up to the individual I think.

    Gerber should really do something about that sheath, that’s for sure.

  • johnB says:

    While I don’t have the BCU Canoe and Kayak Handbook in front of me right at this moment (there are limits what I can get away with at work ;) ) it does clearly state NO KNIFE, and gives about six reasons for that, but as I told Derrick the other day, the one that I have always used is the slicing my throat when I miss the sheath–even though I’m an EMT, I don’t want to try and stop the bleeder resulting from that action. I do carry a Spydrco Rescue knife though, relatively accessible from the pocket it is stored in and opens with with one hand–very sharpe.

    Just as a point of clarification, the surgical scissors mentioned aren’t actually “surgical” scissors, they are EMT shears. To find a wide selection google “EMT supplies” and you’ll find several sources along with nylon holsters.

  • derrick says:

    Specifically something like ADC Medicut Shears. You can search that too.

    I’ll have to go back and look at the BCU handbook. I’ve not read it all the way through yet. :)

  • derrick says:

    Ok, found it. .

    According to the BCU Handbook (2003 edition, page 45)

    A good sharp knife is a handy piece of kit. . . Folding knives are ideal. . the need securing safely in an accessible pocket. . .Externally mounted knives in scabbards are not recommended for the following reasons:

    1. The offer a snagging point

    2. The can easily self-release from their own locking systems, leaving a useless empty scabbard.

    3. Experience has shown that you don’t need the knife to be that accessible in any case.

    4. The can look aggressive and intimidating. (hey, is’nt that a plus??)

    5. Certain legal constraints can apply regarding the length of blade and percieved use by the owner.

    The handbook then asks “Why dress up like a member of the special forces??”

  • Rowland Woollven says:

    Hi Derrick,
    I think we have to bear in mind that each chapter of the handbook is written by an individual (although I do accept that no-one is going to offer outrageous advice!). In my opinion (Level 5 Coach Sea, A5 – not that that makes me the bearer of tablets of stone either!) ‘water+rope=danger’. On anything other than a flat calm sea I therefore consider an easily accessible knife to be appropriate. Only recently, in San Francisco, there were 2 occasions when cutting a line would have been an appropriate response. As for snagging, dropping and looking threatening, an appropriate choice of knife solves all. The Race Rescue Knife I carry is yellow, reasonably compact, has good securing points and a flat profile. Only my opinion, but it’s staying on my PFD for what I consider to be perfectly valid reasons.
    Yours, Rowland Woollven

  • derrick says:

    Hi Rowland,

    No bearer of stone? Shoot, I was just going to hide the calf and light the incense! :) Thanks for jumping in, I appreciate that. I wouldn’t want to give the impression either that “No Solution” is a solution. The trick as you say is finding something that works, without causing new issues all together. I’ve been playing around with ideas a lot since coming back from Tybee.On the front of it the scissors seems safer, but when I sit here playing with them (yeah, I do sit alone playing with toys. ..) It seems like they would be difficult to use in a real situation. At first go I felt confident I could get them out and use them, but then I put gloves on and it really got fiddly. I’m going to look at the knife you suggest (or something similar) as well. Maybe I can replace the scissors with a nice pair of nut crackers. . The holidays are coming after all!

    Thanks!

  • stuartnojob says:

    I am very much looking for a gerber 5302 rivermaster cliplock…either new or unused, preferrably. Can anyone out there help me ? Am going out of the country, and want this knife specifically. thank you…Stuart





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