Comments on: and you will be punished http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2006/10/26/and-you-will-be-punished/ Tilting At Waves Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:23:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: derrick http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2006/10/26/and-you-will-be-punished/comment-page-1/#comment-1623 derrick Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:08:00 +0000 http://cheesestate.com/quixotica/?p=478#comment-1623 I was just looking at the new Northwater system. It seems like I'm going to put my float right up by the clasp as well. That does seem like the best all 'round solution. Certainly shouldn't ever get it hung up in the bag either. I was just looking at the new Northwater system. It seems like I’m going to put my float right up by the clasp as well. That does seem like the best all ’round solution. Certainly shouldn’t ever get it hung up in the bag either.

]]> By: rowland http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2006/10/26/and-you-will-be-punished/comment-page-1/#comment-1618 rowland Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:43:00 +0000 http://cheesestate.com/quixotica/?p=478#comment-1618 More random thoughts... If you have a deck system, the 'near' end should be 'clean' to ensure no snagging on the boat - so a float there is probably unsuitable. If you put it in the middle, it makes chain coiling (or any other shortening system) a bit complicated, so for me its near the 'business' end (see earlier comment). If the float is the only thing floating after an aquatic cluster, it's going to be much harder to find than a line of floating rope. The same sort of comments apply to having the float at the waist end of a waist tow - even a bag can be hard to see in confused seas or surf. However the real answer is 'whatever works for you on the day' - no system is foolproof or 100%. (Said he being dogmatic!!!)<br/><br/>Rowland<br/>:-) More random thoughts… If you have a deck system, the ‘near’ end should be ‘clean’ to ensure no snagging on the boat – so a float there is probably unsuitable. If you put it in the middle, it makes chain coiling (or any other shortening system) a bit complicated, so for me its near the ‘business’ end (see earlier comment). If the float is the only thing floating after an aquatic cluster, it’s going to be much harder to find than a line of floating rope. The same sort of comments apply to having the float at the waist end of a waist tow – even a bag can be hard to see in confused seas or surf. However the real answer is ‘whatever works for you on the day’ – no system is foolproof or 100%. (Said he being dogmatic!!!)

Rowland
:-)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2006/10/26/and-you-will-be-punished/comment-page-1/#comment-1605 Anonymous Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:02:00 +0000 http://cheesestate.com/quixotica/?p=478#comment-1605 Derrick,<br/><br/>Once you go Wichard, you will never go back, when it comes to the Biner that is. I have used the 3" snaphook for 4 years or so and they rock. Towing systems are an intimate thing. After years I finally came to the conclusion that I wasn't spending 80-90 bucks on a system then another (__) to make it mine. I made a bag out of a stiff, self draining mesh; Sewed on a cool belt with a great buckle; Added my 45 foot line to it, daisy chained to 18 feet; Trimmed it out with reflective tape. 3 hours and 30 bucks and I don't have to undo someone elses vision.<br/><br/>Cheers,<br/><br/>Rob G Derrick,

Once you go Wichard, you will never go back, when it comes to the Biner that is. I have used the 3″ snaphook for 4 years or so and they rock. Towing systems are an intimate thing. After years I finally came to the conclusion that I wasn’t spending 80-90 bucks on a system then another (__) to make it mine. I made a bag out of a stiff, self draining mesh; Sewed on a cool belt with a great buckle; Added my 45 foot line to it, daisy chained to 18 feet; Trimmed it out with reflective tape. 3 hours and 30 bucks and I don’t have to undo someone elses vision.

Cheers,

Rob G

]]> By: derrick http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2006/10/26/and-you-will-be-punished/comment-page-1/#comment-1599 derrick Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:00:00 +0000 http://cheesestate.com/quixotica/?p=478#comment-1599 So then I wonder why you couldn't just put the float on the other end so it rarely ever leaves the bag. That would keep it out of the way and still provide flotation.<br/><br/>The only issue with that I could see is if I was being stupid and dropped the clip when trying to attach it. IF all the rope was already free. Then it would be a lot of screwing around to get a hold of it again since it would sink right to the bottom. . . So then I wonder why you couldn’t just put the float on the other end so it rarely ever leaves the bag. That would keep it out of the way and still provide flotation.

The only issue with that I could see is if I was being stupid and dropped the clip when trying to attach it. IF all the rope was already free. Then it would be a lot of screwing around to get a hold of it again since it would sink right to the bottom. . .

]]> By: rowland http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2006/10/26/and-you-will-be-punished/comment-page-1/#comment-1597 rowland Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:36:00 +0000 http://cheesestate.com/quixotica/?p=478#comment-1597 Hmmm... If you remove the float and have a deck mounted system (hook, shock absorber, line) then you lose everything if the line isn't clipped to a boat (floating line alone will not support the hook and shock absorber). If you have a waist mounted system (like Derrick's) then the bag may have sufficient buoyancy to keep all afloat. However, it may not (check each one!)... Having contributed 2 towlines and 3 drogues to Neptune's gear locker (together with a very smart pair of trainers many years ago!), everything of mine of this nature has a float. Instead of removing the float, just move all the 'caggage' back 10 feet or so, leaving only a low-profile hook and low-profile line (climbing spectra tape?) at the hook end. This gives you a clean catch and clean release - and a rafted pair can separate if needed by the assistant sliding up the cas's boat to unclip.<br/><br/>Just thoughts...<br/><br/>Rowland Hmmm… If you remove the float and have a deck mounted system (hook, shock absorber, line) then you lose everything if the line isn’t clipped to a boat (floating line alone will not support the hook and shock absorber). If you have a waist mounted system (like Derrick’s) then the bag may have sufficient buoyancy to keep all afloat. However, it may not (check each one!)… Having contributed 2 towlines and 3 drogues to Neptune’s gear locker (together with a very smart pair of trainers many years ago!), everything of mine of this nature has a float. Instead of removing the float, just move all the ‘caggage’ back 10 feet or so, leaving only a low-profile hook and low-profile line (climbing spectra tape?) at the hook end. This gives you a clean catch and clean release – and a rafted pair can separate if needed by the assistant sliding up the cas’s boat to unclip.

Just thoughts…

Rowland

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