Comments on: biting the hand http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/ Tilting At Waves Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:23:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Stevie McAllister http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-4681 Stevie McAllister Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:01:42 +0000 http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/#comment-4681 Re: "could it be that JJ is setting himself up to deliberately loose" That is a definite possibilty. In the US there are many patent cases in court over really bad patent polies in the US patent office. The earliest famous one that I remember is the amazon.com case where they succeeded in patenting "single click" on a web sites. Re:
“could it be that JJ is setting himself up to deliberately loose”

That is a definite possibilty. In the US there are many patent cases in court over really bad patent polies in the US patent office. The earliest famous one that I remember is the amazon.com case where they succeeded in patenting “single click” on a web sites.

]]> By: Dan http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-4673 Dan Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:13:40 +0000 http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/#comment-4673 We have water rights issues in Kansas that are notorius. The law, from what I've been briefed, is that you can paddle through private land on a public river, you just can't set foot out of the boat without permission. The story at one location is that a guy would sit on a low bridge waiting for paddlers to come by with bowling ball-sized rocks and concrete chunks and push them off the bridge near the paddlers. Whether it's true or not, brings up the point that if there's no one to administer the law for hundreds of miles, the locals basically can do nearly what ever they want. And Kansans are very serious about being independent inspite of the law, and often intentionally against the law. We have water rights issues in Kansas that are notorius. The law, from what I’ve been briefed, is that you can paddle through private land on a public river, you just can’t set foot out of the boat without permission.

The story at one location is that a guy would sit on a low bridge waiting for paddlers to come by with bowling ball-sized rocks and concrete chunks and push them off the bridge near the paddlers. Whether it’s true or not, brings up the point that if there’s no one to administer the law for hundreds of miles, the locals basically can do nearly what ever they want. And Kansans are very serious about being independent inspite of the law, and often intentionally against the law.

]]> By: derrick http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-4662 derrick Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:53:46 +0000 http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/#comment-4662 Thanks for that note Eurion.. by the way, those pics on your blog are awesome! Yeah in reading that post it does sort of make you wonder doesn't it?! The two things seem completely opposed. Maybe he is trying to make a point, but that guy who got arrested can't be too happy regardless. . . UNLESS he was in on it. Oh man, the conspiracy theory you could make!! Dominique makes a good point too. Here in the states we face some goofy laws in some states as well. I think being on the water is fine about anywhere, but getting to it and landing can be another issue completely. Thanks for that note Eurion.. by the way, those pics on your blog are awesome! Yeah in reading that post it does sort of make you wonder doesn’t it?! The two things seem completely opposed. Maybe he is trying to make a point, but that guy who got arrested can’t be too happy regardless. . . UNLESS he was in on it. Oh man, the conspiracy theory you could make!!

Dominique makes a good point too. Here in the states we face some goofy laws in some states as well. I think being on the water is fine about anywhere, but getting to it and landing can be another issue completely.

]]> By: eurion http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-4661 eurion Fri, 27 Jun 2008 22:27:05 +0000 http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/#comment-4661 It does beggar belief. I'm beginning to wonder if this is a bit of reverse psychology. Given that this is an argument requiring settlement, could it be that JJ is setting himself up to deliberately loose, thereby opening up the rivers for everyone throughout the UK. He could become a bit of a star if that is the real objective. ( See here for JJ's previous position on running rivers http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5167 ) It does beggar belief. I’m beginning to wonder if this is a bit of reverse psychology. Given that this is an argument requiring settlement, could it be that JJ is setting himself up to deliberately loose, thereby opening up the rivers for everyone throughout the UK. He could become a bit of a star if that is the real objective. ( See here for JJ’s previous position on running rivers http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5167 )

]]> By: Dominique http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/comment-page-1/#comment-4659 Dominique Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:19:19 +0000 http://www.kayakquixotica.com/2008/06/27/biting-the-hand/#comment-4659 Yes this is unpleasant and may have to do with the UK still being a Kingdom and therefore short a revolution (looks like they missed the boat in 1789...). Land and river access remain a significant issue there, and rivers may be part of estates and "private". But you do not need to travel abroad to find unpleasant barriers to access. One example, and I am sure there are others: Maine allows private ownership of the seashore, beaches and all, which in many areas prevents access to the sea and the beaches. Is it that different? Yes this is unpleasant and may have to do with the UK still being a Kingdom and therefore short a revolution (looks like they missed the boat in 1789…). Land and river access remain a significant issue there, and rivers may be part of estates and “private”.

But you do not need to travel abroad to find unpleasant barriers to access. One example, and I am sure there are others: Maine allows private ownership of the seashore, beaches and all, which in many areas prevents access to the sea and the beaches. Is it that different?

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