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		<title>By: John Browning</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Browning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant piece Derrick!  As one who entered the world of outdoor retail in the early 80&#039;s, and progressed to ownership in the 90&#039;s, I experienced what you speak of frequently.  I often thought about LBJ&#039;s saying &quot;don&#039; piss on my leg and tell me it&#039;s raining,&quot; when brand reps would give me their pitch.  One example, that sticks in my crawl to this day--long after I exited outdoor retailing--came the day the president of The North Face walked through the door of my store, unannounced, to talk to me about their products showing up in the local Sam&#039;s Club--claiming that they (The North Face) didn&#039;t know where the product came from and it wouldn&#039;t happen again, etc. etc. etc.  That was the beginning of the end of a trusting relationship.  I&#039;ve got to hand it to the sales rep at the time though, he walked a fine line between his employer and his dealers (the stores), and he bailed as soon as he could -- going to an even better brand, even to this day in my opinion.  Oh well, my $0.02 . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant piece Derrick!  As one who entered the world of outdoor retail in the early 80&#8242;s, and progressed to ownership in the 90&#8242;s, I experienced what you speak of frequently.  I often thought about LBJ&#8217;s saying &#8220;don&#8217; piss on my leg and tell me it&#8217;s raining,&#8221; when brand reps would give me their pitch.  One example, that sticks in my crawl to this day&#8211;long after I exited outdoor retailing&#8211;came the day the president of The North Face walked through the door of my store, unannounced, to talk to me about their products showing up in the local Sam&#8217;s Club&#8211;claiming that they (The North Face) didn&#8217;t know where the product came from and it wouldn&#8217;t happen again, etc. etc. etc.  That was the beginning of the end of a trusting relationship.  I&#8217;ve got to hand it to the sales rep at the time though, he walked a fine line between his employer and his dealers (the stores), and he bailed as soon as he could &#8212; going to an even better brand, even to this day in my opinion.  Oh well, my $0.02 . . .</p>
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		<title>By: DaveO</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a guy who&#039;s been a sales rep for damn near 25 years at the same joint, I can tell you that anyone who uses the &#039;bad mouth the other guy&#039; technique to sell their product is an idiot.  If a rep can&#039;t use the good attributes of their product to establish value then I figure they don&#039;t have a very good product.  Its good to discuss the drawbacks and improvement opportunities of a product, but nothing (other than my hand carved Greenland paddle, of course) is perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a guy who&#8217;s been a sales rep for damn near 25 years at the same joint, I can tell you that anyone who uses the &#8216;bad mouth the other guy&#8217; technique to sell their product is an idiot.  If a rep can&#8217;t use the good attributes of their product to establish value then I figure they don&#8217;t have a very good product.  Its good to discuss the drawbacks and improvement opportunities of a product, but nothing (other than my hand carved Greenland paddle, of course) is perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: silbs</title>
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		<dc:creator>silbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent rant and right on the point. Change a few words a republish it as a commentary on politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent rant and right on the point. Change a few words a republish it as a commentary on politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: MarcP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarcP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derrick,

Ideas that pop up:

The only thing that accepts everything you offer it is... a garbage can.

I also like a rep that can be openly honest about their company&#039;s warts. Many of those (small kayak) companies don&#039;t like honest reps, though. Hurts their image and especially the owner&#039;s egos.

One thing I try never forgetting about reps is that they are people with kids to feed and cloth, bills to pay. They often HAVE to be more flexible than they&#039;d prefer in order to accomplish that.

I think I recognized myself up there near to where you talked about athletes... hahaha!

I like having my loyalty kept through quality, and also, from a company who demonstrates (e.g. technical or detail improvements) that they listen to their customers. I&#039;ll often pay more for quality and performance when I can afford it.
MarcP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derrick,</p>
<p>Ideas that pop up:</p>
<p>The only thing that accepts everything you offer it is&#8230; a garbage can.</p>
<p>I also like a rep that can be openly honest about their company&#8217;s warts. Many of those (small kayak) companies don&#8217;t like honest reps, though. Hurts their image and especially the owner&#8217;s egos.</p>
<p>One thing I try never forgetting about reps is that they are people with kids to feed and cloth, bills to pay. They often HAVE to be more flexible than they&#8217;d prefer in order to accomplish that.</p>
<p>I think I recognized myself up there near to where you talked about athletes&#8230; hahaha!</p>
<p>I like having my loyalty kept through quality, and also, from a company who demonstrates (e.g. technical or detail improvements) that they listen to their customers. I&#8217;ll often pay more for quality and performance when I can afford it.<br />
MarcP</p>
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